Getting More Juice out of the Lemon

10 Marketing Tips from Matt Lloyd

So the first thing they tell you when you go in search of a few extra dollars online, is you must “learn how to promote other people’s offers as an affiliate.”  That is, learn how to drive traffic to a website.

Some of the people who click end up buying… and you get paid.

Next, they tell you to start building a list.  A list of email addresses which you can email at any time, and produce ‘income-on-demand.’

What usually happens though for most, is somewhere between the 0 – 3,000 email subscriber count, email marketing can be very ‘hit and miss.’

Some days you’ll get the odd sale. But then you can go for weeks… with nothing. Nada. Zilch!

And it can be very frustrating.  I remember being at this stage somewhere myself, back in 2010.

Thankfully I didn’t give up, and over the years that same email list has now grown to close to 1,000,000 subscribers!

But don’t be too impressed by that.

Most of those 1m subscribers are unengaged or completely unresponsive.  This is natural for all lists.  As the list ages, people lose interest, change email addresses, etc… so responsiveness goes down.

These days when I email my main list, I’m reaching out to about 300,000 people in the ‘responsive segment,’ and I might get about 20,000 opens.

Anyway, lets get back to that early stage of list building where you’re between 0 – 3,000 leads.

At a mastermind I did recently I brought one of our attendees up on stage who was having this problem, and he asked:

“Matt, I’ve got this list of 3,000 email addresses, but I don’t have any sales. What am I doing wrong?”

Here’s a rough transcript of what I told him:

1. It’s not just the size of the list.  It’s the relationship you have with the list, which really pays you.

Most Online Marketers think that just by merely building a list is going to get them paid, but building a list is the first step—it’s not what really pays you.

In fact, I know people who have a list of 10,000 leads but they still can’t make a dollar online, or still aren’t getting regular commissions.

The size of a list is a factor, but the relationship is what’s infinitely more important.

The relationship is incredibly important if you ever want to sell something to somebody. Then once you build a rapport with your prospect, the next step is to get those people to respond.

You do that through telling stories. Through entertaining.  Through being interesting.  Through having personality in your copy.  By being likeable.  Etc.  Read ‘Influence’ by Robert Cialdini to get good at this.

2. Market to the right people

This might sound obvious, but the 3,000 people you reached might be the wrong 3,000 people. This is actually pretty common among Online Marketers…

If you’re promoting some product or solution and that’s what you advertise, then you’re landing page should match.

A lot of people advertise many different products online, but then they send these prospects all the to same exact landing page—instead of having separate landing pages for each product advertised.

Yes, it helps you build a big list, but many people are getting on your list through this lead capture page thinking it’s about something completely different.

If the product you’re offering on the landing page is totally unrelated to the ad they clicked, that means you’re not being congruent. And it will be a very hard sale to make.

If you go to XXX, the lead capture page is promising that I’m going to send you daily videos where I answer your questions about marketing.

If you get on my list, and you’re expecting daily videos about marketing, how would you feel if I sent you an email about better gardening? Would you buy my videos about marketing?

Absolutely not, because what I offered, what I presented on their entry point into my sales funnel was completely different to what I’m actually offering. Now, that’s an exaggerated example, chances are you’re  not doing it to that degree, but that could be one of the reasons.

3. Frequency of your messages

Another reason why you might not yet be making money from this list, is that you’re NOT contacting them frequently enough.

You should be reaching out to your list, in my personal view, almost daily.

Some people might think that’s too much.

But your average prospect spends less than 5 seconds a day thinking about you or your business, so it’s not too much at all.

If receiving your content / stories / offers daily is too much for a prospect, they probably are not the right prospect for you.

4. Consistency is key

Here’s another big tip. Consistency is just as important as frequency.

How often do you email them? Is it every day, or two days, or three day?

How often are you staying in front of your prospect? This is what consistency is all about.

For example, if you email them every day for a week, and then they don’t hear from you for a month, guess what? That list is pretty much dying out. That’s not going to last for that long, and I see this happen all the time.

For my ‘MOBE Consultants’ list (the people who promote MOBE programs as affiliates) I’ll usually email them Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.  I try to keep that pattern every week.

And for my main list (which if you’re getting this now, you’re on), I’ll aim to email on Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday.

For me, having that structure really helps.  Without it, I tend to forget to email or push it back on my priority task, and it doesn’t get done.  Emailing your list is the one thing you need to prioritize over everything else in this business.

I know a guy who routinely does about 500k in sales a month.  He’s the most chaotic, disorganized person I’ve ever met (a lot of us entrepreneurs can be like that!).

But the one thing he makes sure he does before he lays his head down on the pillow at night, is emails his list.  He considers that as a sacred activity, worth easily 10k per hour, and is surprisingly disciplined at getting it done each day.

5. Don’t be forgotten (especially in the first few weeks)

Many new online marketers get all excited about building their brand new list. But when they start emailing their new contacts, and they don’t notice immediate results, they put everything on hold.

They don’t email their list for a few weeks… or in some cases, longer.

Then, six months later, they come back to it and they start sending emails again, but now they’re not getting any response. They are not getting any opens, they’re not getting any clicks, and they wonder why…

It’s because these people signed up to be on your list. They were interested in what you had to offer, so they gave you their email address. But they also have incredibly short-term memories.

New leads have very short-term memories…

If someone subscribes to your list and they get a few emails from you, and then you don’t email them for a week, they’ve probably already forgotten you.

That’s why it’s your job to provide them with interesting content they will enjoy reading, and then, of course, you need to offer them products they will actually want to buy.

They will forget your name pretty quickly, so you should always be conscious of this, and keep in touch with them from the beginning.

6. Get “Paranoid” about the constant threat of the declining value of your list

Here’s a big tip I learned from Dan Kennedy…

It’s important you keep a healthy degree of paranoia about your list, because your list is a very unique asset.

Your list is not like gold, it’s not like real estate, or any other tangible asset which has a fairly stable value over time.

Your list is an organic asset—that means it is perishable.

It is either improving in value or it is decaying. So if you are not actively steps and actions to improve the responsiveness of your list and improve that relationship with your list, it is dying out.

And if it’s neglected enough, it will die out completely and you will have this big list that produces no money. So, that’s also very important.

7. Survey your list (ie. ask them what they want from you!)

Now, you might then ask, “Well, how do I know what they want?” And the answer is very simple—YOU SHOULD ASK THEM.

The best thing you can do is to do a quick survey.

You can go to a site like, and there are lots of other sites like this that allow you to conduct surveys. These sites allow you to do a free survey where you can ask them a bunch of questions. You send your new survey out to your list, and ask them what kind of training or value they want.

Usually only a very small percentage will answer your survey, but those are usually going to be your most responsive people, and they will tell you what they want. You might even just ask them, “Look, what are you interested in learning about? Traffic generation, improving conversions, video marketing?” Things like that, and find out what they actually want.

Let me give you my expert advice here… Do the survey. Okay?

Do the survey first of all, and see what they actually want to learn. Learn what they actually want to buy. And why they felt compelled to give you their email address.

You’ll quickly discover why they originally joined your list, and then you can branch out with more questions about that topic to see what they actually want to learn.

8. Make offers to your list (this is the whole point in having a list!)

You’re Here To Run A Profitable Business, And You Must Never Be Afraid To Make Offers And Ask For The Sale!)

Be relentless in promoting offers.

You should promote an offer in just about every single email you do. Now, that doesn’t mean you’re just saying “buy this, buy this, buy this,” – because if you’re too salelsy in your approach to every email and you never give anything in return, you’ll burn out your list quickly.

You still want to be interesting, you still want to be engaging, you still want to educate them, but you have to be making an offer in just about every single email. You will notice in my marketing I’m always making an offer.  Sometimes it’s a very obvious offer, and sometimes it’s very subtle (eg. a soft call-to-action in the PS).

For example, if you get these videos right now for XXX, often the offers that I make are very subtle, but every few videos I might promote one of my products or services, or live event, and somewhere below this video right now there should be a banner ad for one of my products.

So even though that’s a very subtle offer, I’m always putting some kind of offer in front of my market, my list. So you want to make sure that you are doing that.

9. Copywriting skills:  never stop improving them

You should really work at improving your copy writing skills—it’s a very important skill to master.

It’s the ultimate leverage point.

The ability to put words on a page and influence the masses to do what you want, is one of the most powerful and profitable skills you can posses.

Some people pick it up really quickly. Others can take years to get good at it.  But it’s something worth studying and practicing.

When you are writing an email, make sure to encourage responsiveness. Send them an occasional email where you say, “If you want to know more, get back to me.”

Ask them actually reply to the email or contact you on Facebook. That way, you are actually responding to them after they raised their hand and submitted their email to you.

It might sound surprising, but responding and following up with prospects is VERY RARE in this Industry.

The moment that you respond to them, you suddenly become a real person in their eyes. No longer are you just an anonymous guru in their inbox with another 20 emails coming their way.

When you respond to their questions, they see that you’re actually a real person and they feel some little connection with you. They become more responsive as leads and as buyers. So keep on doing that as well.

10. Make offers through different marketing channels (that you introduce through your emails)

Again, your success in marketing is all about making offers…

Use different channels to mix things up.  Sometimes you might do a webinar, which you invite them to from your emails.  You then teach them something on a webinar, and make an offer at the end.

If you’ve never done a webinar before that probably sounds hard.  But it’s as simple as going to and taking 20 minutes to follow their step by step instructions on hosting a webinar.

Another channel:  bring them to a Facebook group you have, engage them there, and make an offer. Private message the ones who are interested.

You should develop several main marketing channels over time, and again just be relentless in marketing and following up.

It’s what separates the people in this game who can extra $2 of value out of every $1 click they buy, from the majority who can’t even get $0.20 out of the same traffic.

It’s all about persistence in the follow up.

You always have to be putting an offer in front of your audience, or some piece of content so that you’re relevant, you’re in their life, and when they’re ready to buy, you’re right there in front of them.

That’s important. Because many times they’re not ready to buy on the spot, but when they are ready, you want to be there.

So there you go.

I hope these marketing tips help you get better connect to your email list.

If you have list of 3,000 email addresses, but you don’t have any sales, now you should be able to pinpoint an area you need to work on, and you can start converting leads into customers.

Footnote: Matt Lloyd wrote this article (one of many thousands of helpful marketing pieces) while he was the Founder and Owner of MOBE (My Own Business Education) He built a massive online education system with sales exceeding $250 million in just 6 years. He was just 31 when the USA’s FTC shut it down without notice because they ‘thought’ it must be a scam (because of its massive growth). Thousands of students from all over the world signed a petition to acknowledge they got tremendous value from their time with MOBE. If MOBE ever returns, I suggest you connect with it. Your life WILL change.